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Post by kingofkings on May 25, 2008 12:00:42 GMT -5
So what's with people that are newer than everything competing for world titles? This isn't a slight on Damian, this happened in the old CRF too, and I found it annoying. Yes, I'll admit, I did it too. However, in retrospect, it was stupid.
My point is, in real wrestling, you never see anyone debuting and winning a World Title three weeks later. So I have a suggestion. How about this. Before you can contend for one of the three World Titles, you have to have won at least one of the other lesser titles, in order to "earn your stripes."
Or, if you're having a contendership tournament, or a Royal Rumble, then winning that would count as winning one of the smaller titles.
Anyone else agree?
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vayne
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Post by vayne on May 25, 2008 12:04:43 GMT -5
I agree with that because that would also bring more competition and interest to the minor titles
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Post by Rappier on May 25, 2008 12:11:41 GMT -5
yes, I agree. though Damian was the last case of this, there were some more in the past. I thought about that when I joined the federation and, advised by Vayne, I decided that before I'd go for a world title, I'd first try the IC. what I mean is that I considered it a sort of "obvious rule": first win fame, then titles (ok, I opened an exception to my CRF Title ) Eric, I'm with you. GIVE ME AN O! GIVE ME AN M!GIVE ME AN E! GIVE ME A G! GIVE ME AN A! OMEGA!
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Post by Minarin Warrior on May 25, 2008 12:30:53 GMT -5
I'd say there should be like a hierachy like with wwe, assigning wrestlers a spot on the roster, main eventer, upper midcard etc. Not sure yet on how to decide where superstars should be but something like that will help big time.
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Post by Rappier on May 25, 2008 12:51:22 GMT -5
maybe that suggestion, Minarin, can give a lot of work to the admins. I think it should be subjective. whenever someone tries to go for a title, Fighter-X or some moderator could just reply in-character: "no, you won't go for it. instead, I'm putting you in the contendership for another title"
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Post by kingofkings on May 25, 2008 12:54:38 GMT -5
That's subject to a lot of bias, though. I think the whole "lesser title" idea is the best one for earning stripes, and management ease.
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Post by nail on May 25, 2008 13:06:02 GMT -5
I agree with the above remarks. Almost everyboy wants to go and win world titles when they haven't been here for a month. That's why CRF had the training division, but since that division is a sure no no since there's not many members it should be made a rule that before going for a major title you have to win a not so valuable title. Like what's been done with the CRF title.
The current situation just isn't realistic, i've allways worried about that, someone arrives and a couple of weeks later gets a shot at a major title? Makes no sence. The road must be paved and some dues should be paid.
I'm not so sure about the hierarchy thingy...but i see this having a negative effect aswell: when someone does win a title, he'll dump it to get a shot at a major one, like the CRF title situation...
How to fix this problem?
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Post by Fighter-X on May 25, 2008 21:50:20 GMT -5
I like the idea but there are some issues to consider. - Hardly anyone sets up long term feuds or other storylines that span more than a week or two. This makes it extremely difficult to determine a clear contender.
- Real wrestling has predicted outcomes for the title matches. They already know in advance who is going to win what title and what the matches are. Because of the issue above I sometimes will not know the title situation until the week of the show.
- Our intent was for each show title to be defended only on that show, not at the PPV. If the title holder wants to put his title on the line sooner than that then we do allow it to happen.
- The title holders are the ones accepting matches with newcomers. If a title holder said he did not want to defend his title against a newcomer then I would not make the match.
I will talk things over with Draven and see if he has some ideas. We had talked about coming up with a superstar rating system at one time but we had some issues with maintaining it. Our idea was that certain ratings were required before competing for certain belts. Between the two of us I am sure we can come up with something.
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Jake Jones
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Post by Jake Jones on May 26, 2008 3:49:51 GMT -5
Just wanna say somthing, Gail Kim didnt she win the womens world title in wwe in less then 3 weeks...anyway..
umm i think its a good idea too and if a champ doesn't reckon his opponent is ready or have some plans for the week they should just reject them like darkness did to me this week lol bastard.
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Post by kingofkings on May 26, 2008 8:14:57 GMT -5
In response to your Gail Kim comment, I say this: Who the hell cares about the Women's Title?
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Jake Jones
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Post by Jake Jones on May 26, 2008 16:31:53 GMT -5
In response to your Gail Kim comment, I say this: Who the hell cares about the Women's Title? Women?
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Post by kingofkings on May 26, 2008 16:35:20 GMT -5
So? Women are pretty much Cruiserweights, except without penises. The Women's title is the lowest of the low. It's not a major title.
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Jake Jones
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Post by Jake Jones on May 26, 2008 17:23:13 GMT -5
Women Fight for womens belts, Men Fight For Mens Belts....Fat/strong men fight for heavyweight, skinny runts fight for crusierweight and all that in between.
Rey Mysterio Shouldn't have got the world heavyweight in my opinion hes too small and it ruined the product.
and women like to watch other women go for the belt.....it would be a high ranking belt if there were more girls that liked wrestling and girls weren't just used as eye candy!
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Post by kingofkings on May 26, 2008 17:48:37 GMT -5
Has the Women's championship match ever been a show stealer, or a main event at a Pay-Per-View? No. Therefore, small-time title.
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Post by Ice on May 26, 2008 20:27:09 GMT -5
I agree with the whole 'paying your dues' type thing. Though if I remember correctly, I got the Judgement Title pretty quickly after 'graduating' from the training division. It took a few weeks, but I'm splitting hairs.
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