Draven
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Post by Draven on Aug 12, 2008 20:25:58 GMT -5
FX and I are in discussions about creating a smaller fed similar to CRF that is geared more for newcomers, superstars who do not want to promo as much, or ones who are not active as often. The idea is that it would sort of be like ECW is to WWE.
So what we would do is have all new people start there and work there way up to CRF if they choose (sort of like how Judgement used to be). Or they can stay in that fed and compete for the titles there. A superstar can only compete in one fed or the other but not both.
Our thinking is that this may give some CRF superstars an option to try if they are losing a lot or they want to try something different instead of changing their characters all the time. Plus it might convince some of the slackers to come back and compete in a lesser role or to work with newcomers to help them adapt.
Of course the CRF would still be the main fed here. This would just be like an alternative to the big leagues so to speak. One positive is that if someone vanishes for weeks without telling us, we could then make them start back in the other fed first before coming back to the CRF. This way someone like Gene Smith could not suddenly return to the CRF and start asking for title shots. He would have to work through the smaller fed first.
So what do you think?
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Post by kingofkings on Aug 12, 2008 21:13:14 GMT -5
I think it's a great idea, and that several people that are currently in CRF should immediately be sent there.
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Post by Ace. on Aug 13, 2008 0:31:10 GMT -5
Its a great idea. But then again its not sooner or later it would get back.To maybe 3 shows again or just having two big show could get out of hand then. But maybe we can do some thing like wwe. They don't have all there superstar have a match some have a match some don't. We could do this the ones that don't get a match. One week can get one the up coming week. The ones that have a match have the up coming week off. To think of some good Promos for there next match. For the PPV could be one big show so everyone gets a match. This could work?
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Post by hughesy on Aug 13, 2008 6:30:57 GMT -5
I think the second fed idea is great!
From what I have heard the training league worked and this could kind of be like that a bit and a way to stop people from slacking off because they now know they can be dropped.
I think this could work great!
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Jake Jones
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Post by Jake Jones on Aug 13, 2008 8:19:00 GMT -5
I Don't care either way.
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Post by vayne on Aug 13, 2008 9:07:20 GMT -5
I think it's easier to put up a division in CRF and bring the training title back... I liked it more that way. Of course they should only be promoted to CRF's main roster when they had good promo skills and they would be reliable to CRF.
However if that idea of a second fed comes up, I'm going to pick up Jace's idea and reformulate... both you and Fighter could choose a superstar in CRF every week to feud in a show of the smaller fed against a guy who has potential to be promoted to analyze if he can keep up with the "big fish"
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Post by nail on Aug 13, 2008 16:18:21 GMT -5
This is a good idea, although i feel a bit divided.
Coming from the trainning division a long way back i felt it was necessary because one would have a month to learn some stuff, develop and move to bigger things. If it wasn't for that month i wouldn't have learned alot of stuff that i know now.
But it doesn't seem fair that one should go back towards the very beggining after a prolonged absence. Plus it would originate bias, i mean if Arc returns he shouldn't go to a division he was never a member of.
Having a smaller fed should give people time to develop their skills in a more relaxed environment, like the trainning title. I just hope that it doesn't diminuish their rp qualities because nobody will promo much over there if it's a place for slackers.
Ideally i would like to see the trainning title and division back with some new rules and specifications and not the ones suggested, since it would provide some sinergy with the CRF rankings.
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Post by Jake Jones on Aug 13, 2008 17:49:38 GMT -5
I Say superstars should just make appearances on that show....Like OVW...once awhile or whatever, cause that would be kool
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Post by kingofkings on Aug 13, 2008 19:29:05 GMT -5
I do believe that CRF should have a training division. And one you learn to RP with complete sentences, and acceptable spelling, you could come to the main stage. Also, you'd have to spend at least a month there, if you're just debuting, kinda like the Training Div.
That's just my idea, though.
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Post by Draven on Aug 13, 2008 20:26:14 GMT -5
One thing that brought this idea about was my problem with the proposed ratings system being too complex to manage. FX suspected that this might happen and he was right. So we are working to simplify the ratings system a little bit. The concept of the system will stay in place, i.e. - you need to be a certain rating to compete for a title. The thing that will change is the numbers and such.
However, in our more simplified form we will also move superstars up or down depending on their promo skills and/or activity. Anyway, in our discussions this idea came about and I wanted to involve everyone here.
I think there are some things that need to be explained some more.
In theory the number of matches would be about the same. Yes there would be 2 shows a week but FX told me that he would post them at the same time. In other words, the workload on him should be the same.
The inactive member rule would only apply to superstars who left without telling anyone why or getting approval for leaving. The superstars who were here prior to the first closing would still be allowed to return to the CRF. After all, it was FX who decided to close the CRF. This rule may also tend to prevent people from just vanishing for months on end and then suddenly showing up as if they never left. I know this has always made things a lot tougher on FX.
The smaller fed would include a training division type of thing. I think the end result would be the same. Actually it may be better because some superstars might take longer to move to CRF depending on their skills & activity.
Members of the second fed would STILL be required to promo in order to get a match.
The ratings system would be modified to include the new fed and how it would work.
The other fed would have a World Title and possibly one other belt.
Newcomers would not be eligible for title shots in the new fed until they reach a certain rating.
CRF Superstars can make special appearances on the smaller fed but they would need GM approval (from the smaller fed GM only). If they had a match on the second fed then they would not have one on CRF the same week. In other words, the one match a week rule still holds.
The other fed would also provide a CRF superstar a chance to try something different. If the superstar does not think he will get a title shot in CRF anytime soon then they could possibly go to the other fed for a short time to compete. This may actually encourage some people to stay rather than leave because they dont win every week. It also gives someone a chance to try out a new moveset, etc.
The actual number of "CRF" superstars competing in the second fed would be limited.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback on this and please keep it coming. This idea is really important and will have a big impact on how CRF moves forward.
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Jake Jones
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Post by Jake Jones on Aug 13, 2008 21:16:05 GMT -5
Uve changed my mind, draven, this sounds good and now i do care!
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Post by nail on Aug 14, 2008 2:32:03 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing things up Draven, now i can really see that system working. This is indeed a good idea.
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Post by vayne on Aug 14, 2008 8:39:36 GMT -5
You've made things clear to me. You can count on my support and you might see Vayne there sometimes to help out the new guys if necessary!
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Post by Monster on Aug 14, 2008 18:43:22 GMT -5
This sounds like a pretty interesting idea. I voted yes.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Aug 14, 2008 22:02:57 GMT -5
I can list several reasons why this idea is a good one:
Amazing Alex Raevyn Shawn Bekaert Azon Stylz The Silent Soldier Shadow Big Buff Tony Ericson Nightmare The Beast
And that is just since the CRF has returned.
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