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Post by kingofkings on Jun 25, 2008 22:23:49 GMT -5
You make some very Valid points, Draven, and here's my response to some of them.
2) That's very true, some people DO focus more on winning belts than having fun. Personally, while I have found myself guilty of trying too hard to win a title, many of the feud I have planned in teh future do not require a championship belt, and could even be better without one. One of my favorite feuds I was part of was against Zappa Omega. No title involved.
3) Vacating a title IS a slap across the face. I'll admit that, I even said it up above. Why did I do it? Because being on Judgement restricted an angle I had planned. Being on Judgement was necessary, as I was the champion. Granted, I should have finished my reign, but I was younger, and stupider. Nothing I can do now will change that.
4) Hulk Hogan is not mentioned because I was writing that list off the top of my head, and his reign slipped my mind. The fact that Hogan was among the few to win more than one world title DID add to the prestige of the Judgement belt. However, I forgot. Sorry Hulk, I'll try to take more vitamins.
6) Very true. There have been people who left because they weren't winning titles, or people who left because they weren't winning matches. For example, there was this one guy who would emulate like, ECW stars, and join as a new one every other week.
7) Well, without some sort of ranking system (which you guys made, and I hope works well), there's no way to find a good balance between Sim and RPs. You need to base the outcomes and future cards on one or the other, without a good ranknig system.
8)That's very true, CRF IS a good place to learn the basic foundations of Rping. Many of the people who started out here as barely adequate have excelled to good. Gary Howe is a good example of this. However, my main gripe wasn't exactly with Rp quality, or quantity, but simply the fact that the matches (which is what CRF is primarily based on, or at least was) weren't taken into much account in Roleplays, and were almost ignored.
But yeah, that's jsut two more of my cents.
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Ice
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Post by Ice on Jun 25, 2008 22:42:59 GMT -5
It is incredibly tough to do what FX is doing when it comes to trying to combine a simulated match e-fed with a rp only style e-fed. I have to admit it is this uniqueness that makes the CRF such a big success. He does make a very good point with what he says right there. I do think that FX does not get enough credit and some people take what we have here for granted. With every good thing, we must take the bad or what we feel is the bad with the situation. I have seen many, many RP based written match results type efeds die because of the lack of staff. What FX has done here I have barely seen else where. It allows us to craft our own storylines (while other feds sometimes don't) and still surprise us with who the actual winners are thus making us be somewhat creative. In other efeds I have been in, I have seen people dominate as champions as they are very good RP'ers. I have seen people join that efed, see the quality the top guy has and just give up which is depressing. What is done here allows for those who are younger to stay and enjoy being here and to be themselves to a certain extent without feeling like they don't have a chance. Dah, thats enough of me rambling....
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Post by kingofkings on Jun 25, 2008 22:47:35 GMT -5
Fighter-X does a fantastic job running this place, and while it may not seem like it, I aknowledge this fullheartedly. Personally, my main gripes in this thread are the ways the wrestlers handle themselves, nothing against Fighter.
But on a side note, could you re-create an entire roster of 30+ wrestlers to be almost exactly the same way they were in appearance, and moveset in about four days? I didn't think so.
In conclusion, Go Fighter.
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Jake Jones
Jake Jones Can Dance Better then Christopher Daniels!
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Post by Jake Jones on Jun 26, 2008 0:24:29 GMT -5
I am Gonna Overide Eric Omegas Conclusion with my conclusion, which is a better conclusion...i agree with erics conclusion but
My conclusion.. Nail - One Hammer one nail, no dvd needed
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Post by kingofkings on Jun 26, 2008 0:26:51 GMT -5
That was terrible, dude.
Nail - Hasn't been nailed in some time.
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Jake Jones
Jake Jones Can Dance Better then Christopher Daniels!
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Post by Jake Jones on Jun 26, 2008 0:32:46 GMT -5
lol that was bad, i agree..
The Adams Family - Nail, Matt and Ammit
The Adams Family - No This ain't The Freaks, oh wait yes it is.
The Adams Family Uncut - Watch Nail, matt and ammit nail each other.
(Hmmm bit incest lol.)
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Post by Big Green Azz on Jun 26, 2008 0:49:39 GMT -5
sounds down right dirty maybe u should play as the unknowing uncle or b/f to ammit lol [glow=Limegreen,2,300]Shot i could care i been here since 06 i been hardcore chump tag wimps and #1 contender so many times its just to be here and play the game thats all cause i have also beat many of ppl to be and have been chumps before[/glow]
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kingdamo
CRF'S MOST DANGEROUS MAN
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Post by kingdamo on Jun 26, 2008 0:54:13 GMT -5
i think i did desereve the title shot i have only lost 2 tag matches in crf and i just lost that triple threat i was only given 1 rematch which i earned by wining that hell in a cell then i wont the title i think winning that match should give me a rematch i think you guys just dont like it because im newish around here but so far my record is good ive beaten nemisis vayne and gary plus all those guys in the hell in a cell. i think i am becoming a very good superstar i just have to improve on my rps
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Post by Cobra on Jun 26, 2008 1:10:15 GMT -5
i think i did desereve the title shot i have only lost 2 tag matches in crf and i just lost that triple threat i was only given 1 rematch which i earned by wining that hell in a cell then i wont the title i think winning that match should give me a rematch i think you guys just dont like it because im newish around here but so far my record is good ive beaten nemisis vayne and gary plus all those guys in the hell in a cell. i think i am becoming a very good superstar i just have to improve on my rps lolwut? stop it. Also, is it that hard to post real sentences?
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Post by nail on Jun 26, 2008 1:25:27 GMT -5
Damian...i already made my point before and that's how i feel about it. Draven, you're right, you really made some very good points. Fighter, thank you again, your work is really apreciated.
Holy crap! Nail puns continue! By the way Jake, the second The Adams family thingy you wrote...lmao
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kingdamo
CRF'S MOST DANGEROUS MAN
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Post by kingdamo on Jun 26, 2008 1:29:37 GMT -5
now i know how triple h feels when everyone says he has the title coz hes the chairmans sun in law. lol
But it dosent bother me what you guys think i will prove that i am capable of beeing a great rper and wrestler.
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Post by Big Green Azz on Jun 26, 2008 2:10:26 GMT -5
[glow=Limegreen,2,300] blah blah blah what ever just step up Ur skills all this crying BS ain't going to get ya to the top step up and be the man to beat the man cause this blame game ain't going to get ya no where short story ya got Ur chance now make something of it [/glow]
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Post by kingofkings on Jun 26, 2008 9:56:27 GMT -5
You earned it by winning the Armageddon match? See, usually a match like that is specified as a contenders match. But also, keep in mind, you faced Lewis Davies, and Oleada in that match. Boris and Fighter are busy with other things. The other person in there who would've made a good contender (based on angles) is BGA. I mean, Lewis is inactive due to medical issues, and I don't even know where Oleada is...
As for the whole "you're new" thing, drop it. It's not your freshness that is the issue. Cobra was relatively new (I think three week in?) when he won the Judgement title. He DID get some hassle for it, but that was from guys who aren't even here anymore.
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vayne
CRF's Most Dangerous Submission
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Post by vayne on Jun 26, 2008 9:56:49 GMT -5
Damian pinning me in a Triple Threat Match doesn't make you beat me... It was both you and Gary who beat me... And I'm not telling this because it's you I consider this in Battle Royals, Fatal 4-Ways and so on... I only use that in promos if I want to be a heel. But what we're saying here is that maybe you like much people here just starts focusing on titles instead of learning how to RP, how to develop your character, adequate your character to reality, etc... We aren't criticizing because we hate you. Just ask Gary he suffered the same but I understand that greed for titles you are new, just try to avoid that and start learning now that you've been here for two months.
Draven makes good points I also believe the show World Titles aren't working (no criticizing your job FX you tried to pull out an idea it didn't work but I speak for everyone when I say we appreciate your efforts). Maybe we could make a match and make a fusion of those belts bringing back the very old CRF Heavyweight Title.
You say I won the IC title in my 4th match... but that match was a tourney and I had to win a Battle Royal a Singles Match and Ladder Match to become a champ... like we all said back in the day it wasn't easy.
I agree with one thing... good feuds might be done with no titles on the line... Just see my feud with Jake right now... it's being fun and cool and the titles (if you already understood) are just an excuse to make us team up and I believe it's being a good feud (give feedback btw)
I hope you and FX take this as suggestions by everyone here on the board in order to help you since you already expend so much of your time on this
I think I said it all just comment
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Post by Gary Phoenix on Jun 26, 2008 10:36:35 GMT -5
Damian pinning me in a Triple Threat Match doesn't make you beat me... It was both you and Gary who beat me... And I'm not telling this because it's you I consider this in Battle Royals, Fatal 4-Ways and so on... I only use that in promos if I want to be a heel. But what we're saying here is that maybe you like much people here just starts focusing on titles instead of learning how to RP, how to develop your character, adequate your character to reality, etc... We aren't criticizing because we hate you. Just ask Gary he suffered the same but I understand that greed for titles you are new, just try to avoid that and start learning now that you've been here for two months. Draven makes good points I also believe the show World Titles aren't working (no criticizing your job FX you tried to pull out an idea it didn't work but I speak for everyone when I say we appreciate your efforts). Maybe we could make a match and make a fusion of those belts bringing back the very old CRF Heavyweight Title. You say I won the IC title in my 4th match... but that match was a tourney and I had to win a Battle Royal a Singles Match and Ladder Match to become a champ... like we all said back in the day it wasn't easy. I agree with one thing... good feuds might be done with no titles on the line... Just see my feud with Jake right now... it's being fun and cool and the titles (if you already understood) are just an excuse to make us team up and I believe it's being a good feud (give feedback btw) I hope you and FX take this as suggestions by everyone here on the board in order to help you since you already expend so much of your time on this I think I said it all just comment Mhm. I got sorta picked on when I first came here. Though it was mainly because I graduated from Judgement without winning the training title. Cobra still seems to pick on me and ive been here for about a year and a half, lol.
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