E-fed Hall of Shame!!!

[Draven]

I have been notified that someone named Zero decided to join the CRF and spam his e-fed in a private message to all our normal members here. He then deleted his account so no one could take action against him.

I just want to let everyone know that this sort of tactic is one of the lowest things that any e-fed could do to try and get members. I tried to sign up with the e-fed and explain to the admin what was going on. I can only assume Zero is the admin because I was banned before I could even send a PM.

Well Zero, this is the lowest of the low when it comes to e-feds. I can assure you that no RESPECTABLE e-fed would ever do such a low life slime ball thing.

The worst thing about this is that the CRF is always nice to other e-feds and we encourage promoting them here. If Zero had actually contacted us about it and explained things we might have posted a link.

So now I have decided to start a thread called Hall of Shame where I will list such places to avoid.

And first on the listing is WWH E-fed and member Zero.

Welcome to the CRF Hall of Shame.

[Lee Chan]

I not sign up but I do get message. He say in message they have good staff. I no think so if they do this.

[Heartbreaker]

Somehow the name Zero is perfect for this guy. Has this loser been banned from CRF?

[nail]

I also received that message but paid no attention to the guy.
Shame indeed, i've promoted a couple of e-feds here and before posting anything i always contacted Fighter-X. You guys are awesome when it comes to promoting other feds, so besides everything Zero is, he is also pretty stupid.

[Le Biker]

I'm actually not against that form of adverstising. Nobody is forcing CRF members to join that fed, or leave CRF. Personally, I don't see what harm this does, or why the e-fed world looks down on PM ads so much. But hey, whatever.

[Baby Dogg]

Well, it's rather duplicitous. If Zero had contacted the staff here and said "I'd like to advertise, can we work out some kind of mutual advertising thing" I wouldn't see a problem with that. Doing it sneakily, the fact that Zero deleted his/her own account right away afterwards and Draven's telling line of "I was banned before I could even send a PM" suggest that Zero knew that what s/he was doing would be considered bad form, and did it anyway. I for one wouldn't want to join a fed with that kind of aggressively one-sided self promotion. It suggests to me that the fed's staff aren't fair and open in their dealings. Furthermore, most people only have time for a couple of feds. If someone from CRF hypothetically decided they like that fed more and quit CRF in favour of it, and that fed offers CRF no reciprocal advertising, that's just outright theft of members. You may say that fed are free to do that but equally, CRF are free to take steps against it.

I checked out WWH and I wouldn't have been joining there anyway - they mix real-world and created wrestlers and have separate divisions for male and female competitors, two things I avoid nowadays, and I recognised some names on the roster as people I've encountered before and had reason to lose some respect for. Plus they don't make their shows or roleplays visible to non-members which is admittedly fairly standard but I still find it a ridiculous policy. But if all of that weren't the case and WWH was a fed I was interested, I still wouldn't be joining anyway based on this stunt. I couldn't respect the staff of any fed who resort to sneaky, underhanded and above all non-reciprocal advertising.

[Le Biker]

I mean, usually if a fed does that, it's not one worth joining anyways. But you speak of "member stealing" as though we're property of CRF. If someone wants to leave, they can. If they do it in favor of another fed, it's probably because they like that fed more. Is it unfortunate? yes. But it's not "illegal" and it's not really shady either. Like I said, nobody's FORCING anybody to join there, and nobody's forcing anyone to leave CRF. If they join there and leave here, they did it entirely of their own will.

Here's an extreme, yet slightly relevant metaphor. If your sister overdosed on crack, would you be more pissed at the crack dealer, or your sister, who knowingly did a ton of crack? I'd be more pissed at my sister.

[Baby Dogg]

I said anything was illegal and I never implied that CRF members were the property of this fed, or at least I didn't intend for anything to come off that way. If people want to leave for whatever reason, including joining a different fed instead, why shouldn't they? My issue, as I said, is with the fact that this other fed did not offer CRF any chance to advertise. They're basically saying "We're going to try and aggressively recruit your existing members and not give you a chance to recruit ours," which IS shady.

[Jake Jones]

lols, im sure we already had a Crf hall of shame. ?

[nail]

Indeed we did, in wich a guy and that vampire chick were a part of, i remember it. He had a huge disagreement with somebody and left, the chick followed him if my memory serves me right. Sorry if i offended your vampiriness vampire chick, not my intention i just don't remember the names.
Why do i bother excusing myself? Not a clue lol

[Rappier]

May 4, 2009 12:39:49 GMT -5 nail said:

Why do i bother excusing myself? Not a clue lol

You're drunk!

About the hall of shame, I can remember someone named vampiro or something like that to be part of it...

And about this mass PM zero sent, I agree with Draven and Baby Dogg. The main problem as I see it was they didn't even allow Draven to send a PM. They spammed here in the CRF and gave zero tolerance to Draven, whose intention meant no harm.

So zero... SHAME ON YOU! You deserve to clean Booger's toilet.

[Baby Dogg]

May 4, 2009 14:18:44 GMT -5 Rappier said:

So zero... SHAME ON YOU! You deserve to clean Booger's toilet.

While he's still using it!

[Ice]

We should all jump on his efed and spam like crazy for CRF

[Jake Jones]

May 19, 2009 19:44:50 GMT -5 Ice said:

We should all jump on his efed and spam like crazy for CRF

Stuff that. We ain't getting spammin wars in Crf. I Have a better idea, Find a random efed on google and spamm there link on zeros boards and then see spam wars of 2009 begin

[Ice]

I love you too Jake.